Miss Moon Pie
Malibu Moon • Apple Pie Baby • (by Not For Love)
37 starts: 7–2–4; $124,288.
Family Notes
Female Family Notes (Family 2-s)
Miss Moon Pie belongs to Female Family 2-s, a producing family that has materially strengthened in recent years and now carries elite, modern validation.
The family is anchored by Time to Dream, a stakes-winning racemare who has become an important broodmare influence. Time to Dream is the great-granddam of Chasing Liberty (by Constitution), a high-class dirt performer who won four races at three and earned $956,000, reinforcing the family’s ability to produce top-end runners.
The most significant recent acceleration in the family comes through Troublesome, who has emerged as a high-impact producer. Troublesome has produced two stakes winners:
- Look Forward (by Bolt d’Oro) : earnings of $635,675; winner of the Eight Belles Stakes (G2) and Fasig-Tipton Santa Ynez Stakes (Listed), and second in the Acorn Stakes (G1).
- Amidst Waves (by Midshipman) : earnings of $292,000; Grade 3–placed in the Soaring Softly Stakes.
In November 2025, Troublesome sold for $825,000 at the Fasig-Tipton November Sale in foal to Nyquist, providing clear commercial confirmation of the immediate female line.
Overall Takeaway
Female Family 2-s now combines historic depth, modern graded-stakes performance, and current commercial validation. This is an active, upward-producing family rather than a legacy page reliant on distant black type.
Nick Analysis
WerkHorse
2026 WerkHorse Summary
This is an exceptionally strong WerkHorse profile defined by depth and breadth rather than a single narrow cross. Miss Moon Pie shows a heavy concentration of A+++ (Triple Plus) results across the modern dirt sire population, indicating structural compatibility rather than trend-based alignment.
Big Picture Takeaways
- Elite compatibility at the top: Multiple A+++ outcomes with proven dirt-class sires and their commercially viable sons.
- Fee flexibility: High grades persist across realistic commercial tiers, allowing line leverage without fee abuse.
- Dirt-forward signal: The mare is not surface-boxed and consistently accepts Classic dirt speed and stamina.
The profile strongly supports disciplined use of elite sire lines, particularly where the stallion adds speed and class without tightening the pedigree.
TrueNicks
TrueNicks analysis across multiple hypotheticals separates clearly into one elite cross, several viable alternatives, and multiple non-optimal options.
Gun Runner × Malibu Moon emerges as the dominant cross by grade, variant, stakes efficiency, and commercial performance. Secondary options show acceptable outcomes but with reduced margin or increased variance.
Overall, the data favors reinforcing proven dirt-class lines rather than chasing novelty, especially given the mare’s now-proven female family.
Stallion Match
StallionMatch analysis places Miss Moon Pie in rare alignment with multiple elite sire lines.
Perfect Match sires include Blame, Quality Road, Candy Ride, War Front, Curlin, Gun Runner, Speightstown, and Karakontie.
Additional 20/20 matches include Unbridled’s Song, Maclean’s Music, Violence, Uncle Mo, Twirling Candy, Justify, and Into Mischief.
This breadth confirms the mare’s adaptability and explains the consistency of high-level nicking signals across analytical tools.
AI Review
Miss Moon Pie is a Malibu Moon mare from a female family that has moved decisively from promising to proven. The success of her sister Troublesome:producer of multiple stakes winners including a Grade 2 winner and Grade 1–placed filly, followed by an $825,000 in-foal sale:materially raises both the commercial floor and acceptable risk tolerance for this mare.
This is no longer a speculative pedigree. The objective is to maximize return on investment while preserving probability, not to chase stallion hype.
Using a disciplined stud-fee range of $25,000–$35,000 and real 2025 sale-ring data, the analysis focuses on weanling economics. Typical mare and foal care through a weanling sale runs approximately $40,000 excluding stud fee, with standard sales commissions of roughly 6%. Within this framework, the stallion must consistently support six-figure demand without requiring pedigree forgiveness.
In the 2025 market, Gunite and Forte both supported median weanling prices of approximately $157,500, while Taiba trailed at roughly $125,000. When stud fees are applied, Gunite produced the strongest margin, Forte delivered comparable gross demand with reduced margin but lower perception risk, and Taiba introduced greater variance with less economic cushion.
The female family’s recent graded-stakes success significantly reduces stallion-cycle risk, favoring disciplined probability over volatility. The correct strategy is to reinforce a line that is already working within the family while maintaining commercial credibility.
Stallion Shortlist
- Gunite : $25,000: Strongest overall nick on the mare (Gun Runner × Malibu Moon), elite analytics support, and the best return-on-investment profile at the weanling median.
- Forte : $35,000: Champion juvenile profile with proven market demand, offering risk insulation and strong commercial clarity.
- Taiba : $25,000: High-upside Gun Runner-line option with greater variance and heavier reliance on stallion-cycle timing.
Decision Rationale
Final Decision: Forte
The final breeding decision for Miss Moon Pie is Forte, driven by a deliberate attempt to replicate demonstrated success within the immediate female family rather than chasing theoretical upside.
Miss Moon Pie’s close relative Look Forward has emerged as a high-class runner, earning over $635,000 with victories in the Eight Belles Stakes (G2) and Fasig-Tipton Santa Ynez Stakes (Listed), and a second-place finish in the Acorn Stakes (G1). Look Forward is by Bolt d’Oro, a son of Medaglia d’Oro.
Breeding Miss Moon Pie to Forte intentionally targets the same performance lane. Forte, by Violence:a son of Medaglia d’Oro:reinforces the Medaglia d’Oro influence that is already producing elite results in this family, without duplicating the exact sire. This preserves genetic diversity while leaning directly into a proven line of success.
From a risk-management standpoint, Forte adds proven juvenile-class credentials, demonstrated six-figure weanling demand in the 2025 market, and a pedigree that complements Miss Moon Pie’s Malibu Moon foundation.
Bottom line: this mating is a line-reinforcement decision, informed directly by what the female family is already producing at the graded-stakes level. Forte provides the clearest pathway to replicate the Bolt d’Oro / Medaglia d’Oro success seen through Look Forward while maintaining commercial discipline.